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A Conversation with Producer John Nathaniel

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As an award-winning producer, songwriter, and mixer, John Nathaniel is a master of blending acoustic, electronic, and orchestral elements into his productions to create seamless cohesion. Hailing from Montreal, Canada, John has worked with an impressive list of artists, including Kygo, OneRepublic, Gwen Stefani, and Switchfoot, to name a few. John’s work with OneRepublic was recently featured on Disney+’s Clouds and the major motion picture Top Gun: Maverick. BMI had the opportunity to chat with John about his production process and take a look inside his studio.

You’re something of a studio gear enthusiast. What are some of your favorite synths or VSTs, and how do you like to incorporate them into your productions?

I get excited with “new toys” and I get inspired by certain pieces of gear. An instrument you want to play, digital or hardware is something that channels creativity.

I’m a big fan of synths, even in more organic records, I’ll have some subtle synth work going on because they add such richness and depth.

I have a Prophet 6 that just sounds incredible and it’s so versatile and easy to operate. I can use it seamlessly in different styles. My Moog SUB 37 is also a go-to whenever I need a deep sub bass! I have tons of VSTs and after all these years, I’m still in love with Omnisphere! Serum is also great, because it’s so intuitive.

Arturia has got some sick synths, as well. I often find myself loading the Jun-6 V for that classic tone. Their Mellotron is also incredible!

I often do pads and add some movement to them, so they have a rhythmic role on top of occupying space.

When it comes to creating sequences, I can do it analog or digital, depending on the tone I want. I often find myself programming more complex sequences in logic, then sending it to my Prophet 6.

What is one piece of equipment in your studio that you think every producer should have? What’s one that you think isn’t necessarily needed but the most enjoyable?

Everyone is so different, but for me, I’d say that having a larger keyboard (more than 2 octaves), ideally 4 or more, allows you to write and think in a larger scale when you’re composing and coming up with ideas. I have this tiny keyboard that I carry with me whenever I’m on the road and I now realize how it can get in the way of getting ideas down quicker. In my setup, I’ve got a 88 keys to my left, to play piano parts, my Prophet, my SUB 37 (both also on my left), but right in front of me, on my desk, I have a 4 octave keyboard to play soft synths or pads.

As far as something not necessary, but pretty cool is a macro controller. My wife recently gifted me a Monogram and I’ve programmed shortcuts in it. I’ve programmed it to work in orchestral sessions, but also in synth sessions where I can control the ADSR/filters of synths with it. It allows me to shape tones much faster and makes my VSTs feel like I’m on my Prophet 6 fiddling around.

Also, having an expression controller changed the game for me. I automate as I play and inject more life into the parts in real time. I now have a few!

When entering a session with another artist or writer, do you like to use productions that are already partially built out as a starting point, or do you like to start completely from scratch?

I sometimes have intros and instrumental starts that I’ve started prior to a session, but more often I start from scratch, as I love to tailor something for and with the artist. I love to dig in with artists and I’m not afraid to spend more time chasing something that’s more X factor. I’m also always looking for new collaborators and excited to work with new talent.

What’s your favorite part of the songwriting/production process? The concept, building out the sounds, mixing, the release rollout? Has your outlook changed over time?

My favorite part is when the song is starting to come to life and starts feeling like a record. There’s something magical about that moment when you play that chorus and you “get the feels”! Whether I’m in a mix or arrangement session, it’s always about contrast and controlling energy. Over time, I try to simplify things. As I get older as a producer and mixer, I tend to want to subtract instead of adding and layering so much. Taking a bit more time to craft some intriguing tones, thinking of voicing things in a complementary way, having the right space for elements to co-exist, etc.

You seem to do everything in the studio – Songwriter, Producer, Mix Engineer, etc. Is the any one role that you seem to enjoy more than the others? If so, why?

I enjoy and cherish every step. I don’t think I could pick one above the others. It’s all different and similar, in a way that you’re trying to build a record that sounds and feels great. Funny thing is I always lean on my songwriter/composer skill to understand what the record is trying to achieve, in terms of energy, arrangement or lyrically, even if I’m only mixing. The lyric and vocal performance will often dictate the energy of a mix for me.

How do you know when a song or mix is done? Do you have a system you’ve developed for knowing when something is locked, or is it a unique judgement call every time?

It’s always a matter of feel. I get it to a point where it feels amazing to me, then the artist/label and I go through revisions. Once we have addressed everyone’s notes, I’ll do a last scope on my end, where I usually polish the edges and then we’re done! As a producer or/and mixer, I go deep in nuances and I get very detailed, but I’m also good at letting go. You can go in a million different ways and start fine tuning elements for a while, but the big picture is what matters most. One thing you learn as an artist, producer, mixer or engineer, and I’ll quote a great YouTube artist here called Venus Theory, is that: “Finished is always better than perfect, because perfect is never finished.”

Listening through your productions, it’s hard not to notice your versatility. Musically, does the writing/production process stay the same whether working with a Dance artist like Kygo or a rop/rock band like OneRepublic, or is it necessary to approach each genre and artist differently?

Thank you! Things are always similar yet different with everyone. I always try to adapt to the artist I’m working with, but I’m still me, regardless of the genre. I have a certain taste for melodies, lyrics, chord progressions, types of voicings… It’s why collaborating with different people is amazing, you get to expand your colors by blending them with someone else’s.

One of the questions we often receive from songwriters/producers is “How do I get in the room with bigger artists?” Given you’ve worked with some incredible artists over the years, how did you manage to cultivate and maintain these relationships?

I have to credit my manager, Mariane, for getting me in rooms with the right people at the right time. As for sustaining relationships, you have to show up and give your love, passion and dedication to projects you choose to do. People will notice if you’re motivated and if you’re really present. Word of mouth is really powerful!

Also, surrounding yourself with people with good values, that respect and cherish their collaborators is very important.

It’s always interesting to look at music documentaries from back in the day and see how producers used to work in the studio. Do you ever wish you were around in a different musical era, or are you happy to exist in the present, with all the amazing studio technology at our fingertips?

I wouldn’t drive a DeLorean at 88 mph! I like the era we’re in for creation and simplicity of the process. However, I’m a sucker for old music. There’s so much richness and bad ass musicians on old records and the sonics were iconic too! I constantly listen to older records, whether it’s Jazz, Motown, RNB or Pop! I’m also a massive fan of Classical music, hence why I often lean on string arrangements when I need to add emotion to records.

We noticed your recent release with OneRepublic, “I Ain’t Worried,” was added to the soundtrack of the new movie Top Gun: Maverick.  Congratulations! Did you make it out to theaters to see the movie live? If so, how did it feel to hear your music in the film?

Thank you so much! I’m very excited about that record doing so well! I’ve seen the film recently and it’s glorious! It’s action packed and epic and the story is great! I am also very proud of OneRepublic for this achievement, this movie is iconic! Grateful to be a part of it.

You recently worked on the upcoming musical Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile with Shawn Mendes. How was this experience different from your other projects?

I was happy to have the opportunity to work on a musical as it’s very different from what I usually work on. There were a lot of pop elements in the songs, but the tempo variations (there’s a wild tempo map in both songs) and certain chord voicings made things a bit more theatrical than pop. Having a classical background, I was familiar with that. I also got to work with really wonderful and talented people and got to see the songs come to life with a real orchestra!

If you were to look at your theoretical music-career bucket list, what are some items at the bottom that aren’t crossed off just yet?

Funny you ask! I’ve started a project called Son Symphony, and I’m working on orchestral/ classical based compositions. I’m a huge fan of the thriller, mystery and horror genre and having a composition be the theme of a show that I love would definitely be bucket list material!

What’s one piece of wisdom you would give to the upcoming songwriters, producers and mixers?

I’d say be kind to others and be respectful. Value professionalism, loyalty and protect your mental health. Your mental state matters and will affect everything and everyone around you.

Also, find the right entourage; it’s so important to let the right people in your life and learn to stay away from the toxic ones!

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Stay With Me

Chris Lake – “Stay With Me”

Fresh off an amazing couple of set at EDC in Las Vegas, Insomniac-affiliated producer/DJ/songwriter Chris Lake continues to impress with this stunning new single, released through his own label imprint, Black Book. Brimming with Lake’s signature tech house style, infectious synths and massive vocals courtesy of Lake’s own spouse, Gita Lake, “Stay With Me” is perfect for the main stage.

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Never Let You Go

Slushii – “Never Let You Go” (featuring Sofia Reyes)

Time and again, Los Angeles-based DJ/producer/songwriter Slushii demonstrates that he can tackle any style he sets his mind to. On this latest release on Big Beat Records, Slushii goes fully tropical in collaboration with Latin GRAMMY-nominated singer/songwriter Sofia Reyes for a sun-kissed slice of steel-drum-buffered dance-pop that’s as sweet as a frozen cocktail on a sultry summer night.

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Starting Fires

Alec Chambers & Stavros - “Starting Fires”

Pair the soulful swoon of Alec Chambers with the sparkling, propulsive production of Stavros, and you’re bound to get something truly special. Sure enough, their latest collaboration, “Starting Fires” has been making consistent waves since its February release as a seamless fusion of romantic, melodic pop with an undeniable EDM pulse.

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Starting Fires

Wolfgang Gartner – “Ectoplasm”

Deftly fusing the disparate sonic strands of Electro, House and Dubstep into a many-tentacled masterpiece driven by his signature classical melody, veteran producer Wolfgang Gartner does not disappoint with his first single of 2019.

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Starting Fires

Alicia Madison – “Make It Up To You”

After releasing a slew of memorable dance singles since 2011, NYC singer/songwriter Alicia Madison has joined forces with production duo, The Golden Pony. Bolstered by an warm, inviting melody and Madison’s honeyed vocals, the track also boasts a secret weapon in the form of a deeply infectious, whistled hook that will cement itself in your head.

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KANDY & Nonsens – “Like This”

When NYC-based producer/DJ KANDY and Denmark-based production trio, Nonsens, collaborate, good things are bound to happen, and their newest creation “Like This” is a very good thing. Released on the Mad Decent sub-label, Good Enuff, “Like This” is a huge, propulsive track that is bound to see some heavy rotation in clubs and festivals around the world.

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ZOOKËPER – “From Me”

Known for his amazing remixes for high-profile artists like Cher, Jason Derülo, John Mayer, and Smallpools, L.A.- based DJ and producer Zookëper has released a succession of impressive singles throughout 2018. His latest release on Spinnin’ Records, “From Me,” is just as impactful, featuring strong vocals and huge synth melodies that are sure to get stuck in your head for the next twenty-four hours.

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RL Grime – “Pressure”

As the first single from the full album Nova, “Pressure” is an audacious opening shot for Los Angeles-based DJ/producer RL Grime. While the album is filled with a variety of musical styles ranging from Dance to Pop to R&B, featuring the likes of Miguel, Julia Michaels, Ty Dolla $ign, Daya, Jeremih, & Tory Lanez, “Pressure” is a callback to his classic signature brand of distorted synth-based dance music. With the song first appearing in his Halloween mix released last year and later featured in a 2018 Apple iMac Pro ad campaign, it’s release last week has been highly anticipated.

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Whethan – “Superlove” (feat. Oh Wonder)

In anticipation of Whethan’s Life of A Wallflower Tour kicking off this fall, the highly-touted producer has released the amazing “Superlove” with the London-based Alt-Pop masterminds Oh Wonder. According to Josephine and Anthony of Oh Wonder, the song was written in just 30 minutes by the three of them while in a Los Angeles Studio session. The fun energy of the production and catchy vocals of Superlove makes it the perfect soundtrack to any sunny afternoon by the pool.

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Glitch Mob – “Go Light”

As the fourth single from their much-anticipated third album, See Without Eyes, “Go Light” by The Glitch Mob is almost the perfect distillation of the L.A. trio’s sound, fusing infectious, glitched-out synths, booming chords and anthemic chord progressions. As a final warning shot prior to the high-impact arrival of the full-length album, four years in the making, “Go Light” ushers in a new phase the electro band’s already formidable journey.

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Lie

Shallou – “Lie”

Originally hailing from Washington, DC, but now based in Los Angeles, Shallou is an artist and producer specializing in atmospheric electronic music. On this latest single, he’s teamed up with indie-pop vocalist Riah and the effect is mesmerizing. By pairing minimalist synths and pulsing beats with a light, winsome melody, Shallou’s signature happy/sad production aesthetic strikes the perfect balance with Riah’s lilting voice to create a truly unique dance song, ideal for a rainy day. Be sure to keep an eye out for Shallou’s impressive live show, which seamlessly blends dreamy electronics, loops, and live instrumentation.

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Lie

Salt Cathedral – “No Love”

A lush amalgam of sparkling synths, sweet vocal harmonies, Caribbean flourishes and an irrepressible Latin rhythm, “No Love” by Ultra Music’s Salt Cathedral is a breezy tribute to the power of love and dancing over hate and violence. As a NYC-based duo of native Colombians, Salt Cathedral has been making waves in the dance community with their uniquely distinctive blend of sumptuous, tropical pop.

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Traces

Armin van Buuren & Garibay -- “I Need You” (feat. Olaf Blackwood)

A seamless mix of crystalline pop and cutting edge production, “I Need You” is the infectious brainchild of super-producers and DJ’s Fernando Garibay and Armin van Buuren. Concentrating on their considerable strengths, while van Buuren’s more renowned for his trance work, Garibay’s midas touch as a versatile producer and songwriter, having worked extensively with everyone from Lady Gaga through U2, shines through on this track. Paring the soulful vocals of Olaf Blackwood with a compelling pulse, haunting chorus and wide-screen sonic expanse, “I Need You” is a genre-straddling confection that transcends the dance floor.

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Traces

APEK – “Traces” ft. Karra

L.A.-based producer, APEK, closes out an eventful year of chart success, streaming achievements, high-profile collabs, and a Tritonal tour with his new song, “Traces.” A richly melodic new track, “Traces” pairs broken-beat innovation with soaring synths and ethereal vocals, courtesy of the incredible Karra. It offers a seamless dance-floor experience that reinforces APEK’s name as one to keep an ear out for.

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Get In Love

Solidisco – “Get In Love”

Buffalo natives and self-proclaimed “taco aficionados,” Solidisco have been lighting up dancefloors and festivals around the globe with an arsenal of originals and remixes out via big player labels, Universal Music & Big Beat/Atlantic, Ultra Records and taste-makers A-Trak’s Fool’s Gold & Laidback Luke’s Mixmash Records. Playing homage to the roots of house music, Solidisco reps the culture, while keeping the dancefloor rocking in the current landscape of dance music.

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Maze

Ramzoid – “Maze”

As co-founder of the Soda Island collective, 18-year-old Canadian producer/DJ Ramzoid established himself as a fresh new force in electronic dance music with a distinctive sound that has garnered the support from acts such as Jauz, Jack U, and Baauer. Breaking away from the DJ standard, his live show is augmented with launch pads, midi-controllers, and a drum kit, so make sure to check the dates for his upcoming tour with Jai Wolf. Blazing ahead with an EP of his own, Universe, Ramzoid is continuing to put his own spin on Future bass.

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Show Me Love

Unlike Pluto – “Show Me Love” ft. Michelle Buzz

Unlike Pluto is an Atlanta-born/L.A.-based DJ/producer who infuses his obsession with electronic dance music with influences and instrumentation from well beyond the conventional realm of the dancefloor. Rightly celebrated as one of Billboard’s Dance Artists to Watch, this multifaceted music creator has only started to reveal his capabilities. “Show Me Love” arrives with vocalist Michelle Buzz’s silky cooing before the track bursts open with spiraling synths, a soulful chorus and a big, expansive drop.

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Supernatural

Boombox Cartel & QUIX – “Supernatural” ft. Anjulie

Initially meeting as students at music school in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Mexico-born artists Americo Garcia and Jorge Medina recognized the potential of their collective chemistry and pooled their musical resources as Boombox Cartel to swiftly drive their informed, innovative sound to the height of the Minneapolis DJ scene. A quick succession of self-releases proved them a force to be reckoned with.

Abandoning chilly Minnesota for the sun and scene of Southern California, the duo has continued to crank out influential singles, catching the ears and accolades of names like Diplo, Skrillex, DJ Snake and Martin Garrix. Their most recent effort, “Supernatural,” finds Boombox Cartel merging with the bass power of QUIX and the sinewy voice of Canadian singer/songwriter Anjulie for a cinematic dancefloor epic.

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Back 2 Life

No Way Back & Le Youth - “Back 2 Life”

DJ/producer No Way Back (a.k.a. Anthony Pisano) has earned a reputation for a style that deftly fuses house, hip-hop and soul, as evidenced on his acclaimed debut single “It’s Not Right, But It’s Okay,” which stormed the Top 10 of the UK Music Week Club Chart. This latest track, meanwhile, finds him putting a cutting-edge spin on the sound of the hedonistic 90’s via a collaboration with fellow Los Angeleno DJ/producer Le Youth (a.k.a. Wes James), himself renowned for filling dance floors with a cool blend of house and R&B. Keep your eyes and ears out for more of this blissful brand of dance music from both Now Way Back and Le Youth.

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Elevate

Jayceeoh – “Elevate” ft. Nevve

Having already established himself as a globally recognized force on the turntables, L.A.-based producer Jayceeoh has earned the respect from celebrated fellow DJ/producers like A-trak, Bassnectar, Boregore and Flosstradamus, and released original trap and bass-driven remixes on influential labels like Dim Mak, Fool’s Gold, Ultra Records, Buygore and more. His latest track, “Elevate,” is poised to only push him further forward, featuring a head-turning vocal performance by Nevve over Jayceeoh’s lush, synth-laden production and propulsive beats.

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Silhouette

GOLDROOM – “Silhouette”

Not just an accomplished DJ and producer, Goldroom (a.k.a. Josh Legg) makes sparklingly lush electronic dance music, but the soul of a bona fide songwriter lurks just beneath the beats. Layered under the sweeping synths, soaring vocals and “nostalgic production tones” of his new single “Silhouette,” Goldroom dreamily hearkens to another age. Straying from the DJ norm, Goldroom’s been known to bring his music to festivals around the world with a full live band. Could crossover success be far behind? Stay tuned.

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Wheels in Motion

TWRK & Lady Bee – “Wheels in Motion”

A strong contender for song of the summer, “Wheels in Motion” pairs New York City’s TWRK with Amsterdam’s Lady Bee. Initially an anonymous duo, TWRK were already cranking out dance floor hits for Diplo’s Mad Decent imprint when the influential DJ/producer revealed their true identities on his BBC Radio program as Benzi and Esentrik. “Wheels in Motion” is a haunting, mid-tempo jam that will only further their growing reputation.

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Gunz

Zookёper – “Gunz”

This New Jersey-native-turned-LA-transplant may be a new face in the DJ world, but he’s no stranger to the stage. As a former member of pop/rock-gone-EDM trio, Cash Cash, Zookёper spent more time touring the globe before his 21st birthday than some acts do in a lifetime. Released by Hysteria Records, “Gunz” has already received support from some of the top DJs around the world, including Martin Garrix, David Guetta, and Morgan Page.

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Headlights

Suspect 44 – “Headlights”

Unbound by genre lines, Suspect 44 fuse the wildly catchy vibes from contemporary popand the lush melodies of Progressive House, and the results are powerful, unique and fresh. Check out their latest track, “Headlights,” out now on Armada Trice.

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